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22 November , 2009, 07:39:30 pm
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« on: 22 November , 2009, 07:39:30 pm »
ok, i understand. soon i will release next version of Marcion. if you wanna to sacrifice some from your time, i can upload source into svn, and you can made and maintain functions for work with coptionary. my database has now around 1000 words. function for batch update of coptionary will be very useful, and, on other side, to update Marcion's database from Coptionary.

22 November , 2009, 07:48:18 pm
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« Reply #1 on: 22 November , 2009, 07:48:18 pm »
I would love to integrate your application with the dictionary
but lets discuses that in another topic, please start new one or continue the existing topic http://kame.danacbe.com/index.php/topic,242.0.html

19 January , 2010, 03:07:27 pm
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« Reply #2 on: 19 January , 2010, 03:07:27 pm »
now i have completed almost main words in Crum with all morphs, except some of these which are described as "meaning unknown/uncertain/doubtful" - so iam prepared on import them into koptionary. please backup your data first and tell me when i can start. thx

19 January , 2010, 07:29:35 pm
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« Reply #3 on: 19 January , 2010, 07:29:35 pm »
OK, I am ready,
although I was kinda wishing that unknown/doubtful words be added too
what is unknown today could be known tomorrow
and knowing the doubtful meaning of the word is always better than not knowing anything at all!

20 January , 2010, 03:55:48 pm
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« Reply #4 on: 20 January , 2010, 03:55:48 pm »
sry, but routine for importing words into koptionary is more complicated than i was expected, so be patient please (this can take few days)

26 January , 2010, 12:48:38 am
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« Reply #5 on: 26 January , 2010, 12:48:38 am »
so, now i have uploaded new release, you can look at my dadabase there, and export it if you wish. i am still expanding database - i hope that entire dictionary will completed during 3-4 months. i will also soon resolve, how to import these data into koptionary, so be patient please. actual data you can obtain from directory rc2/extras/crum-data

http://sourceforge.net/projects/marcion/files/

26 January , 2010, 01:44:27 am
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« Reply #6 on: 26 January , 2010, 01:44:27 am »
Thanks, this work u r doing will have a deep impact when done
I really appreciate it!
tell me if there is something i can do

26 January , 2010, 02:53:47 am
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« Reply #7 on: 26 January , 2010, 02:53:47 am »
of course, if you wanna join to me, you are more than welcome - or you can help me with pistis sophia, and also i cant find anywhere bohairic/sahidic OT in txt format , manichean psalter and other writings in any format.

26 January , 2010, 02:11:18 pm
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« Reply #8 on: 26 January , 2010, 02:11:18 pm »
for now i would like to help in the dictionary project

26 January , 2010, 10:29:07 pm
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« Reply #9 on: 26 January , 2010, 10:29:07 pm »
EXCELLENT

so, get latest version of sources from svn repository - i was prepared simple multiuser environment, and many updates

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svn co https://marcion.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/marcion marcion
then copy directory mysql from source or binary tarball into marcion directory, and then copy directory mysql/shared from your mysql server into marcion/mysql/data (mysql server is not needed, only this directory). tested on version 5.1.41, but newer shoud work also. open project in qtcreator, set proper values for your system on tab project, and build it. after startup switch on in settings edit mode and set your nickname. there are no control mechanism, no passwords.

editation is mostly intuitive, but there are few thungs whiich you must know

at field for coptic word are usable these characters: *,^,$ - their combinations make effect as 'plural','female','(?)' and others - study cwordtemplate.cpp, function formatw()

all morphs of coptic word must be signed by any dialect, or none at all in one line

at field 'english' type meaning of word most precise as possible - if you need coptic text, put it into [] brackets, greek into [[]]. for italic use (), for simple bracket /* */ and so on, study database and you will see how to use various symbols for text formatting.

field 'czech' let empty, i dont suppoose that you know this language (at other side, you probably know better czech than i english ... and czech community which is interrested by coptic lang is practically nonexistent, iam maintaining czech equivalents mainly for my personal pleasure :) )

field greek you can keep empty, this will be updated later from english text, which contains [[gk:]] template

after you will be prepared, i gave you most actual database, and import it by marcion menu database->local->import data.

good luck, thx for your help and moral support

(of course if somebody else wanna join, all are welcome)
« Last Edit: 27 January , 2010, 05:07:43 am by vagrant »

28 January , 2010, 07:41:31 pm
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« Reply #10 on: 28 January , 2010, 07:41:31 pm »
can't u provide any thing simpler :D
maybe web interface or something (I can help with that one)
only few people will be willing to do all the steps you mentioned just to contribute

28 January , 2010, 10:11:11 pm
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« Reply #11 on: 28 January , 2010, 10:11:11 pm »
ironically, this is much simpler way, than edit koptionary  :innocent: of course, you can do whatever you want, most useful is routine for conversion marcion's data and importing them into coptionary - this is my nightmare, then (sorry for that iam stil annoying with that ... to rewrite pistis sophia), or make modules into library, bohairic nt, sahidic/bohairic ot , nt apocrypha (acts of peter, thomas, ioannes etc, apocalypses, then churchfathers - clement of alexandria mainly, then apologetical works and many others), or made map modules - or, if you wanna be real hero, try create coptic parser and interlinear translator (this is my dream), or any nice TLG reader like diogenes project (this is my dream no. 2), or, whatever raise in your mind, all world is yours  :)

good luck

29 January , 2010, 06:37:48 pm
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« Reply #12 on: 29 January , 2010, 06:37:48 pm »
ur right, its hard to to add new work in Coptionary too
I think if we want "normal" people to contribute we should provide much simpler interface
just a form that they fill and click submit
I shall work on that in the next days

29 January , 2010, 09:06:49 pm
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« Reply #13 on: 29 January , 2010, 09:06:49 pm »
yes, very good idea, so, i continue to completing crum

20 February , 2010, 07:48:26 pm
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« Reply #14 on: 20 February , 2010, 07:48:26 pm »
so, half work is done, database now contains over 5000 items - everyone can use it through code from svn, or just decompress it and open in any txt editor, or wait for new release. i think i deserve cofee now.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/marcion/files/rc3/crum3075-2132.sql.bz2/download