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20 August , 2017, 07:04:07 PM
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New words in Coptic
« on: 20 August , 2017, 07:04:07 PM »
Here are some new words in Coptic (as they are used in the Coptic wikipedia ⲃⲓⲕⲓⲡⲁⲓⲇⲉⲓⲁ https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cop/%E2%B2%A7%CF%A3%E2%B2%89%E2%B2%A3%E2%B2%A1%E2%B2%A5%E2%B2%89%E2%B2%97%E2%B2%93%E2%B2%A5 :

ⲡⲓⲣⲉϥϭⲓⲙⲱⲓⲧ `ⲛϫⲟⲙ رئيس الجمهور president
  • ⲡⲓⲣⲉϥϯϩⲟϯ إرهابي terrorist
  • ⲡⲓⲕⲁϩⲓ بلد، وطن country, state
  • ⲡⲓⲣⲉϥⲕⲱⲧ `ⲛϧⲏ body builder
  • ϯⲙⲉⲧⲣⲉϥⲕⲱⲧ `ⲛϧⲏ كمال أجسام body building
  • ϯⲁⲇⲇⲓϥⲗⲁ دفلى oleander
  • ϯⲙⲉⲧⲣⲉϥⲉⲣⲛⲉϣⲧⲉ رياضة sports
  • ⲡⲓϫⲟⲙ حكومة government
  • ⲡⲓⲑⲱϣ محافظة governorate
  • ⲡⲓⲣⲉⲑⲟ قارة continent
  • ⲡⲓϫⲟⲙ دولة state
  • ⲡⲓⲣⲉⲙⲡϫⲟⲙ سياسي politician
  • ⲡⲓⲥⲉⲣⲙⲏ كوكب planet
  • ϯⲙⲉⲑⲣⲏ مجموعة شمسية solar system
  • ϯϧⲏ بدن، جسم body
  • ϯⲁⲫⲉ [`ⲛϯⲙⲓ] عمدة mayor [of a city]
  • ϯϫⲁϫⲃⲁⲕⲓ عاصمة capital
  • ⲡⲓⲣⲉⲑⲟ ولاية state (part of another state, like California of USA, Bavaria of Germany)
  • ϯⲗⲓⲧⲣⲁ جنيه pound
  • ϩⲁϩ مليون million
« Last Edit: 01 July , 2020, 08:47:47 AM by CЄTMOCЄ »

20 August , 2017, 07:15:47 PM
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Re: New words in Coptic
« Reply #1 on: 20 August , 2017, 07:15:47 PM »
Furthermore:
ⲥⲁⲣⲏⲥ `ⲛⲁⲙⲉⲣⲓⲕⲏ = South America = امريكا الجنوبية
ⲥⲁϧⲏⲧ `ⲛⲁⲙⲉⲣⲓⲕⲏ = North America = امريكا الشمالية
ⲑⲉⲣⲏⲥ = Antarctica = انتارتكا، القطب الجوبي

ⲛⲉⲧⲟⲟⲩⲓ = Venus = الزهرة
ⲥⲟⲩⲕⲏ = Mercury = عطارد
ϩⲁⲣⲑⲱϣ = Mars = مريخ
ϭⲗⲟⲓ `ⲛⲧⲱⲣⲓ = handball = كرة يد
ϭⲗⲟⲓ `ⲛⲟⲩⲣⲏⲧⲉ = football = كورة
ⲥⲁ `ⲛϭⲗⲟⲓ `ⲛⲟⲩⲣⲏⲧⲉ = football player = لاعب كرة القدم

27 August , 2017, 12:21:37 AM
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Re: New words in Coptic
« Reply #2 on: 27 August , 2017, 12:21:37 AM »
Thank you Ⲥⲉⲧⲙⲟⲥⲉ; are the names of the planets i.e Venus, those of Egyptian gods?
𓇋𓏌𓎡𓂀Ανοκ 𓅯𓄿𓏭πε 𓉐𓉻𓁈πουρο 𓈖ν 𓆎𓅓𓏏𓊖Χημι

16 January , 2018, 08:54:28 PM
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Re: New words in Coptic
« Reply #3 on: 16 January , 2018, 08:54:28 PM »
ⲟⲩⲟⲛⲧⲉ ϯⲃⲓⲕⲓⲡⲁⲓⲇⲉⲓⲁ `ⲛⲣⲉⲙⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ ⲟⲩⲥⲉⲗⲓⲥ ⲉϩⲁⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ `ⲙⲃⲉⲣⲓ (ⲛⲉⲟⲗⲟⲅⲓⲥⲙⲟⲥ)

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cop/%E2%B2%A5%E2%B2%81%CF%AB%E2%B2%93_%60%E2%B2%99%E2%B2%83%E2%B2%89%E2%B2%A3%E2%B2%93_%60%E2%B2%9B%E2%B2%A3%E2%B2%89%E2%B2%99%E2%B2%9B%E2%B2%AD%E2%B2%8F%E2%B2%99%E2%B2%93

29 June , 2019, 05:08:23 AM
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Re: New words in Coptic
« Reply #4 on: 29 June , 2019, 05:08:23 AM »
So how are new words created? Ive know people to "pull" them from Greek or Arabic. 

28 June , 2020, 09:28:39 PM
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Re: New words in Coptic
« Reply #5 on: 28 June , 2020, 09:28:39 PM »

Copts generally have a couple of strategies. Some just take the Arabic word, some rely on (Ancient) Greek, and some try to coin new words from within Coptic and Ancient Egyptian.

The latter strategy requires profound knowledge in historical linguistics, though. But if you know Ancient Egyptian (especially Demotic), you can introduce wonderful real Egyptian words. Sometimes, you can also take words from other Coptic dialects. For example: No genuine Bohairic word for "hieroglyphs" has survived. Some Copts just take (ϩ)ⲓⲉⲣⲟⲅⲗⲩⲫⲟⲥ from Greek. But in one of the Nag Hammadi texts (in Sahidic), a phrase ⲥϩⲁⲓ ⲛ̄ⲥⲁϩ ⲡⲣⲁⲛ︦ϣ︦ is attested. This can easily be rendered in Bohairic as: ⲥϧⲁⲓ `ⲛⲥⲁϧⲫⲣⲁⲛϣ.

Or take ⲁⲛϣⲱϫⲓ for gym. Bohairic has ϣⲱⲓϫ for 'athlete, gladiator'. This is derived from ϣⲱϫⲓ (not attested in Bohairic I think but in Sahidic and other dialects) which is a verb which means "fight" and anything an athlete/gladiator/hero does. Thus, we could take ϣⲱϫⲓ has the verb 'to play sports' and as a noun 'sport'. Because ⲁⲛ- is a prefix which creates places (see ⲁⲛⲍⲏⲃ school), you can create ⲁⲛϣⲱϫⲓ for 'gym'.
This is an awesome way to express things in "real" Coptic, but it requires a thorough knowledge of ancient texts and historical phonology (sound changes).


02 August , 2020, 09:12:54 AM
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Re: New words in Coptic
« Reply #6 on: 02 August , 2020, 09:12:54 AM »

Copts generally have a couple of strategies. Some just take the Arabic word, some rely on (Ancient) Greek, and some try to coin new words from within Coptic and Ancient Egyptian.

The latter strategy requires profound knowledge in historical linguistics, though.


Maybe looking into Modern Hebrew would help. The institute of the Hebrew Language uses historical roots to conjure up new words that don’t exist in Classical Hebrew. I wouldn’t say that I entire agree with some of the roots they’ve used for some words though, they’re kind of odd, but the procedure could help in Coptic. Other words that you’re just not able to dig into historical Coptic or Ancient Egyptian to find the proper word for, I’d say to use Arabic or Hebrew and adjust the word to fit the syllabic and vocalic system of Coptic. I don’t know if I’d use Greek, just because there’s already an influx of some Greek words automatically intertwined into Coptic. Just my two cents on the subject.
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