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11 August , 2023, 02:14:01 PM
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What are the native words for "Bohairic" and "Sahidic"?
« on: 11 August , 2023, 02:14:01 PM »
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I was just wondering how you would ask someone what dialect they speak in Coptic. I asked ChatGPT, because it wasn't included in Sameh's book and I can't remember finding it in Lambdin, and it said ⲉⲥⲏⲙⲉ for bohairic, and ⲥⲉⲕⲉⲥⲉⲙⲉⲥ for sahidic ??? I don't know if it's making up random words, or it found an online dictionary that had words for the dialects...I'm definitely gonna think twice before trusting Mr. GPT :)
Could it even be that these words never survived through long enough to be included in a dictionary? I've read that the dialects were so starkly different that people knew which was which immediately, so maybe the words fell out of use?

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12 August , 2023, 05:39:41 AM
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Re: What are the native words for "Bohairic" and "Sahidic"?
« Reply #1 on: 12 August , 2023, 05:39:41 AM »
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Please refer to the ⲛⲓϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ section in the following link:

https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/cop/ⲁⲥⲡⲓ_`ⲛⲣⲉⲙⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ

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29 September , 2023, 06:57:48 PM
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01 November , 2024, 10:14:34 PM
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Re: What are the native words for "Bohairic" and "Sahidic"?
« Reply #3 on: 01 November , 2024, 10:14:34 PM »
From what I know vocabulary to name dialects in Coptic almost didn’t survive. Dialects were just recognized by speech so terms weren't really needed. As for ⲉⲥⲏⲙⲉ and ⲥⲉⲕⲉⲥⲉⲙⲉⲥ... ??? those might be ChatGPT's invention cause I haven't seen these anywhere
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01 December , 2024, 10:53:01 PM
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Re: What are the native words for "Bohairic" and "Sahidic"?
« Reply #4 on: 01 December , 2024, 10:53:01 PM »
ⲁⲕⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲁϣ ⲛϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ (sing. m.)
ⲁⲣⲉⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲁϣ ⲛϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ (sing. f.)
ⲁⲣⲉⲧⲉⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲁϣ ⲛϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ (pl.)
ⲁϥⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲁϣ ⲛϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ (sing m. 3rd person)
ⲁⲥⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲁϣ ⲛϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ (sing f. 3rd person)
ⲁⲩⲥⲁϫⲓ ⲛⲁϣ ⲛϫⲓⲛⲥⲁϫⲓ (pl. 3rd person)

This would mean which dialect you speak?
literally you speak which dialect?
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