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29 April , 2022, 11:23:36 PM
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« on: 29 April , 2022, 11:23:36 PM »
How do I translate this sentence
“Welcome to global Coptic day”
I tried this
Ϧⲉⲛ ⲟⲩϯⲙⲁϯ ⲛⲉⲙⲟⲩⲣⲁϣⲓ Ϩⲓⲛ̀ⲣⲉⲙⲚ̀ⲭⲏⲙⲓ Ⲉ̀ϩⲟⲟⲩ
But I am still missing global
Please help me fix it
Mirna shehata

04 May , 2022, 01:34:03 AM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #1 on: 04 May , 2022, 01:34:03 AM »
Ok y’all I found the translation and I will share it with y’all.
 Ⲛ̀ϯⲙⲁϯ ⲉ̀ϩⲟⲟⲩ ⲛ̀ⲣⲉⲙⲑⲟ ⲫⲁⲭⲏⲙⲓ
Welcome to global Coptic day.
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06 May , 2022, 07:29:22 AM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #2 on: 06 May , 2022, 07:29:22 AM »
ⲙⲁⲣⲉ ⲡⲉⲧⲉⲛϫⲓⲛⲓ ⲉⲡⲓⲉϩⲟⲟⲩ `ⲛ[...] `ⲙⲙⲉⲧⲣⲉⲙ`ⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ

The [...] correspond to the word "global" which I am not able to translate properly.

06 May , 2022, 07:12:52 PM
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« Reply #3 on: 06 May , 2022, 07:12:52 PM »
The word ⲛ̀ⲣⲉⲙⲑⲟ means global that’s what Dr. Nabil told me it comes from kosmos "ⲑⲟ"
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07 May , 2022, 06:37:46 AM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #4 on: 07 May , 2022, 06:37:46 AM »
ⲣⲉⲙ is short for ⲣⲱⲙⲓ (a man / human / person)
ⲣⲉⲙ`ⲛⲭⲏⲙⲓ = man of Egypt = Egyptian
ⲣⲉⲙⲑⲟ doesn't mean anything in my opinion. Maybe ⲣⲉⲙ `ⲛⲑⲟ  (man of world) ? still wouldn't mean global.
Maybe other members here can correct me if I am wrong.

09 May , 2022, 09:26:45 PM
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« Reply #5 on: 09 May , 2022, 09:26:45 PM »
I asked him about that and that was the reply:
“in creating adjectives, i.e.not very literal
rem`nkoi  came as 'wild', (Genesis 16:12)  though koi main meaning is 'farm'
'rem`nheet'  came as 'wise' or 'enlightened', and not 'man of heart', or 'man of mind'
'rem`nee' came as a family member and not 'man of the house
'rem`nhoab' came as 'messenger' and not 'man of work or 'business man'
'remvaki' came as 'civil/' مدني . حضري and not 'man of city'”

So based on this explanation the right way is “ⲣⲉⲙⲛ̀ⲑⲟ”
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10 May , 2022, 04:20:41 AM
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« Reply #6 on: 10 May , 2022, 04:20:41 AM »
In all examples you gave, the word ⲣⲉⲙ is translated to "man". wild man, man of mind, man of the house (family member), ....

but there is no "man" in the word global. or are you trying to say something like global man / international man? It might be correct in that case.

10 May , 2022, 06:37:22 AM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #7 on: 10 May , 2022, 06:37:22 AM »
I would suggest the word ⲙⲉⲧⲑⲟ instead to mean global.

Similar to ⲉⲙⲓ (to know) -> ⲙⲉⲧⲉⲙⲓ (knowledge)
Though I'd still take second opinion if I were you.

10 May , 2022, 07:19:47 AM
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« Reply #8 on: 10 May , 2022, 07:19:47 AM »
The attachment has what I mean
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10 May , 2022, 09:19:05 AM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #9 on: 10 May , 2022, 09:19:05 AM »
ⲛⲟϥⲣⲓ,

Well I think Admin is correct. ⲣⲉⲙ-based adjectives are better used for humans.

Mirna, all the adjectives in your attachment are used to describe human beings. I think ⲣⲉⲙⲛⲑⲟ gives the feeling that we're talking about a global person. Hence, in this case, I personally prefer adjectives that don't begin with ⲣⲉⲙ.

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13 May , 2022, 12:04:39 PM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #10 on: 13 May , 2022, 12:04:39 PM »
Ⲧⲁⲙⲉⲛⲣⲓⲧ Ⲙⲓⲣⲛⲁ,
I cannot agree more with both admin and Ⲡⲓⲙⲟⲩⲓ. Unfortunately, Dr Nabil is mistaken. Ⲣⲉⲙ is a prefix referring to man (masculine and feminine of course) and many people mistake it as a generic genitive term. It is not.
I therefore suggest ⲕⲟⲥⲙⲓⲕⲟⲛ a word extensively used in Coptic resources and even in the Old Testament.
However, if you would like to keep it very Coptic (even though ⲕⲟⲥⲙⲓⲕⲟⲛ is not Greek only) you could say something like ⲛⲁ (ⲫⲁ, ⲑⲁ) ⲡⲕⲁϩⲓ which again at least in the Bible refers to "worldly" or ⲛⲁ (ⲫⲁ, ⲑⲁ) ⲡⲓⲑⲟ which strictly speaking is not exactly the same but similar.. I hope this helps..
Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ ⲡϭⲥ
Ⲁⲣⲓϩ̀ⲙⲟⲧ ϣ̀ⲗⲏⲗ ⲉϩⲣⲏⲓ ⲉϫⲱⲛ

13 May , 2022, 02:26:33 PM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #11 on: 13 May , 2022, 02:26:33 PM »
Just to elaborate more ⲡⲓⲫⲁ for the masculine singular, ϯⲑⲁ for the feminine singular, and ⲛⲓⲛⲁ for the plural, and all those could be used as prefixes with other "noun" words
Ⲟⲩϫⲁⲓ ϧⲉⲛ ⲡϭⲥ
Ⲁⲣⲓϩ̀ⲙⲟⲧ ϣ̀ⲗⲏⲗ ⲉϩⲣⲏⲓ ⲉϫⲱⲛ

17 May , 2022, 09:19:30 PM
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Re: Translate
« Reply #12 on: 17 May , 2022, 09:19:30 PM »
Thank you for all these ideas and help. that’s how I see it: that global is basically referring to the day and if we consider that word “day” is a masculine word so it is the noun in this sentence, so I don’t think it’s wrong when I use it to describe a language or city or a moment.
And sorry for late replying.
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17 May , 2022, 09:23:03 PM
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« Reply #13 on: 17 May , 2022, 09:23:03 PM »
And like what you explained that the word ⲣⲉⲙ is not literal for man and it is also used for masculine as well as feminine. So it is literally meaning man of ……
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